1891 Argentine Mauser Carbine Serial Numbers
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Ive got my eye on an extremely well taken care of full size long rifle 1891 modelo argentino 7.65x53. At least 90% blueing, stock is beautiful with minor dings and look to be original (AR) shielded argentine stamps, everything matching, cleaning rod ect. Scrubbed crest of course, bore Bright shiny no pitting or any thing other than some dust.
Couldn't do a crown test on it because the store obviously doesnt carry the argentine round being somewhat uncommon boolit. But the rifling is strong all the way to the crown so looks good. Now to my questions.
Oct 23, 2006 Argentine Mauser Modelo 1891: The last antique rifle. Word of caution when referencing Argentine M91 as antique as rifles manufactured by DWM are only antique for serial number prefixes A through J & about 1/3 to half of serial prefix K. All Loewe, Berlin manufactured are pre 1899, antique as DWM took over production in 1897. Dec 10, 2011 - Got a 1891 Argentine Mauser serial number A 2404 can anyone tell me when it was made? If long rifle it's an 1892 if a carbine it's 1893.
Quality wise, do these mausers compare to the 1909 or newer models? (i know there were advancements made on the newer models) what would a nice one go for in a store near you? And * weird question * do any other mauser bayonets fit the 1891 argentine?
(cheapest ones ive seen are 100$+ for the 1891) Any other comments or information about the rifle, owning, or buying the 1891 modelo argentino would be very appreciated (other than ammo price issues, or finding ammo which shouldn't be too hard). Mike, For $250, if the Model 1891 rifle is uncut (ie, not sporterized), and in nice condition with a clean bore, you got an excellent deal. Normal selling prices for ones with the scrubbed crests usually go for around $300-$500, and I've seen even higher prices asked (although rarely sold, unless the crest is intact). Is yours a Lowe or a DWM marked rifle? I used to have a link to a chart that matched the serial number blocks to the year of manufacture, if I still have it I'll post it. Quality wise, you have nothing to worry about.
Although it's succesor, the M1909 Argentine is built on the 98 action, and so is 'stronger', with the 7.65mm ammo, you won't have any issues at all with the M1891 action. It's very solid for that caliber, and should be a very accurate shooter. Frankly, unless they've been trashed over the years, or have a shot-out bore, the Pre-WW1 made Mausers are almost always going to be of better quality, fit, and finish than most of the modern commercial rifles you'll see in any gun store today. Awesome thanks for the info, yes its an original Loewe modelo 1891 argentine, iam completely satisfied with my purchase, ill have to post some pics of it sometime, i pick it up after next weekend, and i have 60 rounds comming through the interwebs from aimsurplus, they sell the prvi partisan 180 grain soft point for 14-something per box o' 20. Going to try partisan out first because i was recommended it by a few shops. Now i just have to save another Benjamin or so for the short sword those Argentinian's call a bayonet. Maserati vx1 vocal enhancer free download free trial. Thanks again for the price-guide, i still cant believe what a smoking deal i got, the mom n' pop shops still have what its got.
Well i didnt wait to get any other feedback really, i HAD to buy this rifle too clean for such an old gun, ill try to get some pictures after i pick her up. 250$ out the door I have one a 'bubba'd' 1891 that was literally given to me. I'll never pass up a free gun.;) They're great rifles and the round is a very good shooting round. Surplus ammo is still out there and there are some major manufacturers sell premium ammo for hunting; 7.65 Argentine is a great hunting round. I'd like to see some pics when you get a chance. If it's all original and if you have one with the Argentine crest still stamped on the receiver, you stole it for $250!:eek. Most of them had their crests scrubbed when they were surplussed.
The Argentines supposedly had a law way back when that required it. I have a few bubbed 1891a, and a couple of Belgian 1889s, which are almost the same. Very well made. The round is pretty decent.
The sights on yours may be set for the older 211 grain bullet instead of the 155 or 174 grain bullets used later on. It won't make that much difference unless you are trying to volley fire with a bunch of your friends at long distances though. You can normally use.311' diameter bullets for reloading. If you get poor accuracy, you can slug your bore and see if.312' or.313' bullets might work better. But for the most part,.311' will give you good accuracy without the added expense of the odd-sized larger ones. In terms of power, it is about mid-way between.308 and.30-06. Nothing but quality and I would venture to say the 1891's were just a bit better in quality than the 1909's.